Catherine Owen, with 18-week-old Brianny, says several people have told her to lay a complaint. Photo / APN
Breast-feeding in the public gallery of a courtroom could be a
"catalyst" to angry scenes in an already tense environment, Law
Society president Jonathan Temm says.
His comment comes after Wanaka mother Catherine Owen was asked to leave
the Queenstown District Court by a judge for breast-feeding her 18-week-old
daughter on Tuesday. Ms Owen was supporting her partner in court when her baby
began to cry, so she started breast-feeding her. Shortly afterwards, Judge
Kevin Phillips asked: "Why is there a baby being breastfed in my
courtroom?". A court bailiff then approached Ms Owen, who had already
started to leave the court.
Mr Temm today said the Law Society did not have a view on whether women
should be allowed to breast-feed in courtrooms. But he added it absolutely
respected a judge's right to determine what was appropriate in their courtroom.
"Think about it in a practical context - imagine if the public gallery
were full of members of the Mongrel Mob and say other people from criminal
gangs, and you have a woman who breast-feeds. "It just becomes a catalyst
and people can become quite angry about it. Other women can get angry about it.
"You don't need more tension in the courtroom, you've already got enough.
So there are lots of reasons why you need to be more circumspect about certain
behaviours."
Mr Temm said judges had complete control over their courtrooms and were
entitled to set their own standards, with no limits on their power.
"They can ask people to be removed, taken out, they can ask for
hats and sunglasses to be taken off, phones to be turned off, people to be
arrested even in the public gallery for contempt of court."
Judges generally tolerated a great deal from people in the public
gallery, who were often "anxious and apprehensive" because they were
there to support to people appearing in court. Mr Temm said people would have
different views on women breast-feeding in court. "There is a very active
breast-feeding campaign going on in New Zealand now, and some people believe a
woman should have a right to breast-feed wherever she wants, whenever she
wants. "Others might have the view that there are rooms available for
people to be discrete about the need to engage in that - maybe the child would
be more settled in a different environment in a quieter environment than the public
gallery of a busy district court."
Mr Temm said there were two ways to challenge a judge's decision,
through a judicial review or a complaint to the Judicial Conduct Commission. A
judicial review would be costly while it was doubtful the commissioner would
criticise the judge's decision. Ms Owen said she was embarrassed by the way the
judge asked her to leave, but she would not be taking the matter further. Under
the Human Rights Act, it is illegal to prevent someone from breast-feeding in
public.
But Human Rights Commission spokesman Gilbert Wong said courts were
specifically exempted from any intervention by the commission. He said the law
applied to public areas, rather than non-public areas like courtrooms. Mr Wong
said the commission would encourage most people to take a sensible approach and
accommodate breast-feeding. "There's been a long issue where women have
had problems in choosing to breast-feed their infants, and the commission
considers that in the right setting, it's potential grounds for unlawful
discrimination, depending on the place."
Plunket clinical advisor Allison Jamieson said support for
breast-feeding in families, communities and society was essential for improving
breast-feeding rates. "Currently 85 per cent of babies up to the age of
six weeks are getting some breast milk. The goal is to see more babies being
exclusively breastfed for longer. "In order for this to happen
breast-feeding mothers need a supportive environment. Plunket encourages all
New Zealanders to support mothers in their decision to breast-feed."
NZ Herald
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